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	<title>Comments on: (CCHIT): An Invitation to Participate in Developing a Certification Program for Personal Health Records</title>
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		<title>By: e-Patient Dave</title>
		<link>http://www.tedeytan.com/2008/09/16/1744/comment-page-1#comment-2097</link>
		<dc:creator>e-Patient Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2008 15:04:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt; phrdecisions.com

Oy.  I didn&#039;t read your whole post, plunged into the PHR Workgroup site instead of the one you cited for conversation, then complained about being in the wrong room. :)

Another existence proof: not everything a patient says is inherently useful.   

Back later!</description>
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<p>Oy.  I didn&#8217;t read your whole post, plunged into the PHR Workgroup site instead of the one you cited for conversation, then complained about being in the wrong room. <img src='http://www.tedeytan.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Another existence proof: not everything a patient says is inherently useful.   </p>
<p>Back later!</p>
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		<title>By: Ted Eytan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ted Eytan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2008 14:45:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dave,

I&#039;d just post a comment on the first posting on phrdecisions.com. As good a place as any.

Mark,

Appreciate the feedback, and the central question: Does this work foster innovation? All of us on the workgroup are there because we want to make sure it does. We&#039;ll look forward to your opinion when you see the draft criteria. I think you are in a good position to provide an informed one given all of your experience - thanks for taking an interest in this and for following along here,

Ted</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave,</p>
<p>I&#8217;d just post a comment on the first posting on phrdecisions.com. As good a place as any.</p>
<p>Mark,</p>
<p>Appreciate the feedback, and the central question: Does this work foster innovation? All of us on the workgroup are there because we want to make sure it does. We&#8217;ll look forward to your opinion when you see the draft criteria. I think you are in a good position to provide an informed one given all of your experience &#8211; thanks for taking an interest in this and for following along here,</p>
<p>Ted</p>
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		<title>By: e-Patient Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>e-Patient Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2008 14:25:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt; comment right on the site

At the risk of imprecisely repeating myself, I couldn&#039;t find where to do that.

If I&#039;d dug I might have found it, but I&#039;d say I&#039;m an existence proof that some people can&#039;t see where to start, if they want to pitch in (or even suggest posting the definition).</description>
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<p>At the risk of imprecisely repeating myself, I couldn&#8217;t find where to do that.</p>
<p>If I&#8217;d dug I might have found it, but I&#8217;d say I&#8217;m an existence proof that some people can&#8217;t see where to start, if they want to pitch in (or even suggest posting the definition).</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Frisse</title>
		<link>http://www.tedeytan.com/2008/09/16/1744/comment-page-1#comment-2093</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Frisse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2008 14:23:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ted,

Great web site and wonderful postings.

Thinking about the attributes of certification and their properties seems like a good idea.Who can&#039;t be interested in the potential for robust personal health records? 

Certifying PHRs is, in my view, premature. Should there be great concern over privacy and data use? Absolutely! Should other important properties of health information be addressed through legislation and policy? Of course. But certifying a PHR in this early period is a bit like certifying PCs before high-speed internet was prevalent or certifying Web apps before Netscape, Amazon, RealAudio, and Web 2.0? Can you imagine what a blow certification can do to innovation?

CCHIT was formed to assure ambulatory practitioners that their products would meet certain criteria and not leave them in the lurch. It&#039;s right out of the Thompson / Brailer report. Now CCHIT is busy certifying all kinds of things for which we as a society have not yet created a collective understanding. Unnecessary complexity - and unnecessary and premature certification - cripples innovation.

What we need at this critical juncture is more innovation within a loose framework of privacy protection and secondary data use. 

Just my two cents&#039;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ted,</p>
<p>Great web site and wonderful postings.</p>
<p>Thinking about the attributes of certification and their properties seems like a good idea.Who can&#8217;t be interested in the potential for robust personal health records? </p>
<p>Certifying PHRs is, in my view, premature. Should there be great concern over privacy and data use? Absolutely! Should other important properties of health information be addressed through legislation and policy? Of course. But certifying a PHR in this early period is a bit like certifying PCs before high-speed internet was prevalent or certifying Web apps before Netscape, Amazon, RealAudio, and Web 2.0? Can you imagine what a blow certification can do to innovation?</p>
<p>CCHIT was formed to assure ambulatory practitioners that their products would meet certain criteria and not leave them in the lurch. It&#8217;s right out of the Thompson / Brailer report. Now CCHIT is busy certifying all kinds of things for which we as a society have not yet created a collective understanding. Unnecessary complexity &#8211; and unnecessary and premature certification &#8211; cripples innovation.</p>
<p>What we need at this critical juncture is more innovation within a loose framework of privacy protection and secondary data use. </p>
<p>Just my two cents&#8217;</p>
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		<title>By: Ted Eytan</title>
		<link>http://www.tedeytan.com/2008/09/16/1744/comment-page-1#comment-2092</link>
		<dc:creator>Ted Eytan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2008 13:32:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dave,

We both know you are far from foolish....

I suggest you comment right on the site. CCHIT is working to include patient participation and your wisdom will be welcomed and very helpful, just like it is here,

Ted</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave,</p>
<p>We both know you are far from foolish&#8230;.</p>
<p>I suggest you comment right on the site. CCHIT is working to include patient participation and your wisdom will be welcomed and very helpful, just like it is here,</p>
<p>Ted</p>
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		<title>By: e-Patient Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>e-Patient Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2008 13:22:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hate to say it, but speaking as an innocent fool lay patient, I need another reminder on what PHRs are, among all the various &quot;R&quot; technologies.

And I would humbly encourage you to encourage lay participation by prominently posting that definition on the CCHIT PHR site. :)

I looked around for a place to add my 2c worth someday, and found the nice PARTICIPATE link at the top, but it took me out of the PHR subsite to the rather industrial-formal-sounding Public Comment page. Great for people who are in the standards game, but not too inviting for lay &quot;geek wannabes.&quot;  

Okay back to work with me...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hate to say it, but speaking as an innocent fool lay patient, I need another reminder on what PHRs are, among all the various &#8220;R&#8221; technologies.</p>
<p>And I would humbly encourage you to encourage lay participation by prominently posting that definition on the CCHIT PHR site. <img src='http://www.tedeytan.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I looked around for a place to add my 2c worth someday, and found the nice PARTICIPATE link at the top, but it took me out of the PHR subsite to the rather industrial-formal-sounding Public Comment page. Great for people who are in the standards game, but not too inviting for lay &#8220;geek wannabes.&#8221;  </p>
<p>Okay back to work with me&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: e-Patient Dave</title>
		<link>http://www.tedeytan.com/2008/09/16/1744/comment-page-1#comment-2090</link>
		<dc:creator>e-Patient Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2008 13:11:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Flood flood flood ... love the idea, not available during the workday, will try to follow along!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Flood flood flood &#8230; love the idea, not available during the workday, will try to follow along!</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Tate</title>
		<link>http://www.tedeytan.com/2008/09/16/1744/comment-page-1#comment-2089</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim Tate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2008 12:26:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ted,

Thanks for the update on CCHIT&#039;s PHR timeline. I expect the PHR Certification process will bring credibility and clarification to this area, much as it did for the EHR field.

Thanks,

Jim Tate
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ted,</p>
<p>Thanks for the update on CCHIT&#8217;s PHR timeline. I expect the PHR Certification process will bring credibility and clarification to this area, much as it did for the EHR field.</p>
<p>Thanks,</p>
<p>Jim Tate<br />
<a href="mailto:jimtate@emradvocate.com">jimtate@emradvocate.com</a></p>
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